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"I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME!" Proverbs 8:17
"And you shall not walk in the manners of the nations which I cast out before you, for they committed all these things, and therefore I *ABHORRED THEM."
(*Abhorred" equals "HATED" see below!) :
THE WORD SAYS HE ABHORS SINNERS, NOT JUST THE SIN:
KJV Dictionary : Abhorred ABHOR'RED, pp. Hated extremely, detested. (Comma suggests Extreme Hate.)
Strongs Abhorred H6972 through the idea of severing oneself from. . .to (H6962); to be (causatively make) disgusted or anxious
Webster's 1837 Dictionary Abhorrent ABHOR'RENT, a.
1. Hating, detesting, struck with abhorrence.
2. Contrary, odious, inconsistent with, expressive of extreme opposition, as, "Slander is abhorrent to all ideas of justice . . ."
1) to be grieved, loathe, abhor, feel a loathing or abhorrence or sickening dread
1a1) to feel a loathing at, abhor
1a2) to feel a sickening dread
1b1) to cause sickening dread
1b2) to cause loathing
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Strong’s Number: a primitive root [identical with H6972 through the idea of severing oneself from (compare H6962)]
Abomination ABOMINA'TION, n.
1. Extreme hatred; detestation.
2. The object of detestation, a common signification in scripture.
Leviticus 20:23: "And you shall not walk in the manners of the nations which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I *ABHORRED / HATED THEM." (See above "Abhor.")
Leviticus 26:14-30: "If you will not hearken unto ME, and will not do all these commandments. And if you shall despise MY statutes, or if your soul abhors / hate MY judgments, so that you will not do all MY commandments, but that you break MY covenant, I also will do this to you... [send plagues, famine, drought, destructive armies, wild beasts who shall devour your children, pestilence, captivity in a cruel land...] And if you will not for all this hearken unto ME, but walk contrary to ME, Then I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU IN FURY... I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcasses upon the carcasses of your idols, and MY SOUL SHALL *ABHOR / HATES YOU." (*HATE) [That 1 verse should be enough to destroy the "UN-conditional Love THEORY/ LIE, if sinners could READ?]
Deuteronomy 18:12: "For all that do these things are an ABOMINATION TO THE YHWH, and because of these abominations the YHWH your CREATOR does drive them out from before you."
Deuteronomy 25:16: "...ALL THAT DO UNRIGHTEOUS ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO THE YHWH." Abomination = disgusting (morally)
Deuteronomy 28:62-63: "Because you would not obey the voice of the YHWH your CREATOR ... it shall come to pass, that as did the YHWH rejoiced over you when you did good, and to multiply you, so YHWH will be the CREATOR that will also REJOICE OVER YOU TO DESTROY YOU, and to bring you to naught. And you shall be plucked from off the land whither you go to possess it." (In Deuteronomy 27, 28, and 29, 124 (CURSES are promised upon ALL who refused to obey CREATOR’S commandments.)
Deuteronomy 32:16-20: "They provoked HIM to jealousy with false gods, with abominations they provoked HIM to ANGER... And when the YHWH saw it (HIS people sacrificing to devils - v.17) HE HATED THEM..."
Psalm 2:4-9: "The YHWH that sits in the heavens shall LAUGH [at rebellious men], the YHWH shall allow them a derision. Then shall HE speak unto them in HIS WRATH, and VEX THEM WITH HIS SORE DISPLEASURE... [and the WORD shall] break them with a rod of iron, YOU shall dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel."
Psalm 5:5-6: "The foolish shall not stand in YOUR sight, YOU HATE ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY. YOU shall destroy them that speak leasing [lies]. THE YHWH WILL ABHOR THE BLOODY AND DECEITFUL MAN."
Psalm -13: "...CREATOR is ANGRY with the wicked every day. If they turn not, HE will whet HIS sword; HE has bent HIS bow, and made it ready. HE has also prepared for them the instruments of death. HE ordained HIS arrows against the persecutors." [Fact: "E-v-e-r-y d-a-y," does not leave any days out, that HE is NOT ANGRY with the wicked."]
Psalm 10:3: "For the wicked... bless the covetous, WHOM THE YHWH ABHORS."
Psalm 11:5-7: "The YHWH tries the righteous, but the WICKED and them THAT LOVE VIOLENCE HIS SOUL HATES. Upon the wicked HE shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible storms, this shall be the portion of their cup. For the righteous YHWH loves righteousness..."
Psalm 50:22: "Now consider this, you that forget the CREATOR, LEST I TEAR YOU IN PIECES, AND THERE BE NONE TO DELIVER."
Psalm 78:59: "When CREATOR heard this HE was ANGERED, and GREATLY ABHORRED
Psalm 106:40: "There-fore was the wrath of the YHWH kindled against HIS people, insomuch that HE ABHORRED HIS OWN INHERITANCE."
Proverbs 3:32-33: "For the forward is an ABOMINATION TO THE YHWH... The CURSED OF THE YHWH is in the house of the wicked, but HE blessed the habitation of the holy."
Proverbs 6:16-19: "These six things dose the YHWH HATES, YES, all seven are AN ABOMINATION TO HIM ... A false witness that speaks lies, and they that sows discord among the brethren."
Proverbs 16:5: "Every one that is proud in heart [their minds,] are an ABOMINATION TO THE YHWH, though hand join in hand, they shall NOT be unpunished." ["hand join in hand" is a hand shake / agreement.]
Proverbs 17:15: "They that justified [pardons, give excuses for] the wicked, and they that condemns the just / holy, even they both are ABOMINATIONS TO YHWH."
Jeremiah 17:5: "Thus says YHWH, CURSED BE THE MAN [to 119 a human being] that trusts in man, and makes flesh their arm, and whose heart [H3824) the feelings, the will, even the intellect,] departs from YHWH."
Hosea 9:15: "All their wickedness is in Gilgal, for there I HATED THEM, for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of MY house, I WILL LOVE THEM NO MORE..."
Malachi 1:3-4: "And I HATED ESAU, and laid his mountains, and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness . . . thus says the YHWH of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down, and they shall call them, 'The border of wickedness, and the people AGAINST WHOM YHWH HAS INDIGNATION FOREVER." (That should scare the LIE of unconditional love right out of you! IF!)
Romans 9:13: "As it is written, Yacob have I loved, but ESAU HAVE I HATED."
I Corinthians 16:22: "If any man love not the YHWH Yehoshua the Christ, let them be ANATHEMA MARANATHA [which means ACCURSED, YHWH COMES]."
James 4:4: "You adulterers and adulteresses, know you not that friendship of the world is ENMITY (or HATRED) WITH CREATOR? Who-so-ever therefore will be a friend of the world is an ENEMY OF YHWH."
I Peter 3:12: "For the eyes of the YHWH are over the righteous (holy pure, saints,) and HIS ears are open to their prayers, but THE FACE OF THE YHWH IS AGAINST THEM THAT DO EVIL." ["FACE" means G3708; to gaze upon watch (that is, with wide open eyes, ;]
Revelation 14:10-11: "[Sinners] shall drink of the wine of the WRATH OF CREATOR, which is poured without mixture into the cup of HIS INDIGNATION / FIERCE ANGER, and they shall be TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY ANGELS, AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB, and the smoke of their TORMENT ascends up for ever and ever; and they have NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT..." [FACT!]
** THE HISTORICAL POSITION OF "THE CHURCH"
AS REVEALED BY ITS REPRESENTATIVES **
AUGUSTINE (354-430, Bishop of Hippo): "For it may be that CREATOR HATES A PERSON to the degree more mildly, as not to destroy him, but whom He destroys HE HATES THE MORE EXCEEDINGLY, by how much He punishes more severely. Now HE HATETH ALL WHO WORK INIQUITY: but all who speak lies He also destroys." (Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Vol.3, p.462)
JOHN WESLEY (1703-1791, founder of Methodism): "But as for the wicked, GOD HATES THEM, and will feverishly punish them." (Explanatory Notes Upon the Old Testament, Vol.2, p.1639)
JONATHAN EDWARDS: "The CREATOR that holds you over the pit of hell, much in the same way one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect, over the fire, ABHORS YOU, and is dreadfully provoked: His wrath towards you burns like fire: He looks upon you as worthy of nothing else but to be cast into the fire: He is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in His sight: you are ten thousand times more ABOMINABLE in His sight than the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours." (Sinners In the Hands of an Angry GOD,
CHARLES G. FINNEY: "The very thing that God hates and disapproves is not the mere event - the thing done in distinction from the doer; but it is the doer himself. It grieves and displeases God that a rational moral agent under His government should array himself against his own God and Father, against all that is right and just in the universe. This is the thing that offends God. The sinner himself is the direct and only object of His anger." (The Guilt of Sin, pp.84-85)
F. DELITZSCH : "Of such (sinners - the foolish, and more especially the foolish boasters:)... SUCH MEN JEHOVAH HATES: for if He did not hate evil, His love would not be a holy love," ... "And His soul HATES the evildoer and him that delights in the violence of the strong against the weak. And the more intense this hatred, the more fearful will be the judgments in which it bursts forth." (Psalms, Vol.5, pp.122,189)
CHARLES H. SPURGEON: "Verse 5 - Note the singular opposition of the two sentences. GOD HATES THE WICKED, therefore in contrast He loves the righteous..." (The Treasury of David, Vol.2, pp.57-58 on Ps. 5: 5 )
LAYMAN’S BIBLE COMMENTARY: "GOS’s Hatred of Evildoers (Psalm 5:4-5)... GOD is not said to love the sinner and hate his sin; He is said to HATE BOTH THE SINNER AND HIS SIN. This sounds harsh to modern Christian ears, but there is truth here we dare not overlook."
MATTHEW HENRY’S COMMENTARY: "He is a holy GOD, and therefore HATES THEM (the sinner), and cannot endure to look upon them; the wicked, and him that loves violence, HIS SOUL HATETH... Their prosperity is far from being an evidence of CREATOR’s love...their abuse of it does certainly make them objects of HIS HATRED. He hates nothing that He has made, yet HATES THOSE who have ill-made themselves."
THE INTERNATIONAL CRITICAL COMMENTARY: "But the wicked HIS SOUL DOTH HATE... Their treacherous preparations...are all observed by Yahweh, and HE HATES THEM FROM HIS VERY SOUL. The soul is the seat of the passion of anger and hatred, for GOD as well as for man...therefore, Yahweh is trying the righteous man, and HATING His deadly enemies..."
THE INTERPRETER’S BIBLE: "In vs. 5 the verb ‘trieth’ has its object both the righteous and the wicked, and means no more that the YHWH watchfully observes them both and estimates them for what they are, HATING THE LATTER and ultimately pouring His destruction upon them."
BROADMAN BIBLE COMMENTARY: "Yahweh takes no pleasure in wickedness and does not dwell with evil (or evil men). Insolent, boasting people have no position at all in the presence of Yahweh, who HATES ALL ‘DOERS OF SIN.’ Indeed, Yahweh will annihilate those who speak deception: HE DETESTS THE MAN OF BLOODY DEEDS AND DECEITS."
AGAIN, THE "CONDITIONAL" LOVE OF CREATOR
"CREATOR hates the sin, but loves the sinner" has become the motto of American evangelism today.
Certainly, CREATOR hates sin – about this there can be no equivocation. But the WORD also states unambiguously, with striking frequency, that CREATOR HATES SINNERS. The WORD says that He will laugh at the wicked when their calamity comes like a whirlwind, and that He rejoices over the wicked to destroy them. If you find this concept of CREATOR incompatible with the tenets of your religion, I really doubt whether you really know the WORD!
Justice is an attribute of love. A honest judge in a courtroom of justice rejoices to catch all criminals, convict, and punish them. Is it because he is unloving? No. If he is loving, he will be glad the rapists, murderers, car thieves, child molesters, extortionists are sent to jail - for the greater good of society. CREATOR hates sinners in the same sense a honest judge would hate criminals - for the greater good of mankind! CREATOR hates sinners in the same sense that HE hates the devil - to promote the general welfare of HIS CREATED. Not because CREATOR is hateful, but because He is PERFECTLY loving. For the greater good of the universe, HE is forced to rid the earth of all rebels and reign forever. It is best, it is right, it’s the loving thing to do. As long as sinners serve the devil by continuing their relentless war against virtue, purity, goodness, then the Wholly CREATOR hates, abhors, curses, detests, despises them, and will ultimately destroy them in His wrath - because the FACT is. . . CREATOR is Love.
There is a LIE in which CREATOR loves all men unconditionally, sinners and saints, that is Not at all the Truth and is totally contradictory to the WORD's teaching of HIS hatred for sinners. HE only cares for the sinner in the sense that HE wills their good. The WORD wills that all men repent and not perish (2 Pet.3:9).
CREATOR’s caring for sinners is not emotional drivel or sentimental feelings. He does not accept sinners "just the way they are"; they must repent (change, and TURN) and believe in order to be accepted by HIM (Acts ). He doesn’t love sinners the way that they want HIM to: HE does not give them unconditional approval, unconditional acceptance, unconditional forgiveness, or unconditional friendship.
The WORD speaks of a love CREATOR has for HIS CREATION is WHOLLY CONDITIONAL.
Hear the WORDS of CREATION:
Proverbs "I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME, and those that seek ME early shall find ME." (Can you SEE the Condition? "I Love them who love the WORD!")
John 14:21 "They that have MY commandments and keeps them, they are the ones that love ME and they THAT LOVE ME SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER, and I will love them, and will manifest MYSELF to them." (MORE CONDITIONS again, of not only KNOWING the commands / demands but LIVE them are they who love HIM!)
John 14:23 "Yehoshua answered and said unto him, IF ANY LOVES ME, they will keep MY WORDS, AND MY FATHER WILL LOVE THEM, and WE will come unto them, and make OUR abode in them." (Total Condition !)
John "IF you keep MY commandments, you SHALL ABIDE IN MY LOVE, even as I kept MY FATHER'S commandments, and abide in HIS LOVE." (That ONE verse should overrule the LIE that the REAL CREATOR, loves a sinner! )
John "For the FATHER HIMSELF LOVES YOU, BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOVED ME, and have believed that I came out from CREATOR." (Condition "because you have loved the WORD!" Not just "liked" some "historical" man. !)
I John "Love NOT the world, neither the things in the world. IF any one loves the world, THE LOVE OF THE FATHER IS NOT in them." (Condition: "do not love the world, NOR the things in the world!")
ALL CONDITIONAL love is the love of relationship and friendship, such as the love a man would have for an old, faithful OBEDIENT, and faith-filled servant. CREATOR'S conditional love is fellowship. We enjoy this love only by being wholly obedient to HIS WORDS of influence about His CONDITIONAL LOVE.
You cannot know His CONDITIONAL LOVE unless you cease to love sin, and HE becomes our FIRST Love.
LOVE by definition must be voluntary, and NOT forced or OBEYED by "fear," as "fear is only the beginning of Wisdom," as fear awakes the slumbering soul to the eternal danger of DISOBEDIENCE to a WHOLLY CREATOR! HE states in . . . Jude ". . .And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment spotted by the flesh!"
The WORD does NOT force love upon anyone.
That would NOT be benevolent - just as it would not be benevolent for a man to "force" himself upon a woman.
The WORD wants our love to be a free expression from all our mind and soul ( will and emotions.)
Only in this would HE receive glory and than HE is pleased.
The WORDS invites, persuades, pleads, and beckons all to leave their idolatrous loves of the world, and the things of this world, and worship, and adore the TRUE CREATOR WORD above ALL THINGS. And to give the WORDS of CREATION TOTAL pre-eminence above EVERYTHING on earth, above the earth and below the earth. That is consecration and dedication or what some know as "sanctification."
If you comply, the WORD delights in you.
QUESTION: Should the WORDS of WISDOM delight in Hitler, Stalin and than in Moses and Elijah alike?
Should the WORD be pleased with Judas Iscariot, as same as John the Apostle?
How about Ananias, with Sapphira who withheld and disobeyed and were destroyed?
As long as sinners reject the DIVINE WORD, shown in the bloodied and bruised body of CHRIST, they cannot receive any CONDITIONAL love. Matter of FACT HE HIMSELF stated . . . "Why do you call ME YHWH, YHWH and do not do the things that I tell you to do?" Luke 6: 46 How could you LOVE HIM, if you do NOT do the things that HE SAID TO DO? ANSWER: you can NOT love HIM, unless you DO ALL THAT HE SAID TO DO! And that is NOT "works" that is "FRUIT" of HIS SPIRIT pouring through you.
As long as any of you continue in your sins, you are at war with the LAWMAKER, and under the condemnation of HIS LAW and wrath of HIS justice, THAT CONDITIONAL love not-with-standing.
Unless you meet the terms of the covenant / agreements / and promises and that proves that have total reverence of the WORD, and TOTALLY TURN, TURN form ALL your defilements, and completely OBEY, and love the WORD Supremely - than you are doomed to the FURY of HIS COMPLETE ANGER and WRATH on JUDGMENT Day!
The real question, or statement, has never really been. . . "Does the WORD love you?" But "DO YOU REALLY and Truly LOVE THE WORD?"
Never did CHRIST or any of HIS Apostles ever tell the lost multitudes, "CREATOR loves you". Never!
And John 3: 16 wasn't written until around 93 AD, and than TOTALLY MISS-Translated into what you pretend that the HATER of SIN, changed HIS MIND about the destruction of sinners!
The only one who is going to embrace you on Judgment Day is head of HELL. And that deceiver, will be the only one that will say to you "welcome in good and faithless servant."
NOR did any "preaching" anywhere in ACTS of the Apostles state that "CREATOR loves you and has a plan for your life." NEVER!
Matter of FACT:
1 Cor. 3: 16 & 17 was INSPIRITED THRU Paul more than 50 PLUS YEARS before John penned John 3: 16!
1Cor. -17 "Do you not know that you are the
And 1 Cor. &17 that set the precedence, or stranded about anyone and everyone who makes the temple of the WORD unholy or defiled!
Romans "For the WRATH of CREATOR is revealed from heaven against ALL un-YHWH-ness, and unrighteousness of men, who hold unrighteousness as the Truth!" ( YES THAT SAID "ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS" of men. and women.)
2Thes. 1:8-9 "In a FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not CREATOR, (HIS WORD) and that obey NOT the GOOD NEWS of our RULER Yehoshua the Christ. Who shall be punished with EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION from the presence of YHWH, and from the glory of HIS power."
2Cor. "KNOWING THEREFORE THE TERROR OF YHWH, we persuade men. But we are made manifest unto the WORD, and I trust also [the WORD] be made manifest in your consciences."
Only the "sinners" creator, loves the sinner!
Since the REAL John 3: 16 was not INSPIRED until 93 AD, than can the real logic be, that NONE of the people of the WORD, ministered that their 'CREATOR loves the sinner,' and all you have to is learn the above WORDS TO OVERCOME that LIE!
What could have been preached, since John was NOT "ministered" for the first 60 (SIXTY) years by the BODY of CHRIST? Answer: ALL of the Above
Rather, they told the multitudes of their duty to love the RISEN WORD, supremely, and love their neighbor equally to that WORD - this is all the Law of LOVE.
And if sinners would not keep HIS WORDS they were ALL warned of HIS righteous judgments, so that they rather fear HIS WRATH. Ezk. 3: 17-20; 33: 2-14;
In the book of Acts, which is our first example of Church evangelism, the word "love" is not mentioned even once, while the fear of the YHWH is referred to ten (10) times!
Love was NOT mentioned anywhere. . . . as the WAY to heaven for sixty (60 plus) YEARS from Acts of the Apostles, to the written works of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John UNTIL the 90s AD, except loving the WORD with ALL your mind, body and soul!
And the so-called preaching the Love of CREATOR for the "created," never once started a "revival."
Anyone who believes that the WORDS of CREATOR ever said HE "loves a sinner" does not know the FIRST and foremost WISDOM of the WORD!
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What is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom? . . . . The WORD says it is the "FEAR" OF THE WORDS!
Fear ALERTS the soul of oncoming danger, and the soul can choose to TURN, and at that point of choice, to TURN from their wicked ways, than LOVE pours forth into the soul, and LOVE is revealed!
One cannot love the WORD in the moral sense - CREATORLY UNSELFISH LOVE, good-willing, perfect submission - and turn against the MORAL LAW of CREATOR! This is NOT LOVE but the pretend-a-love or humanistic gospel that omits mention of the WRATH and FURY of the WORD on All who do NOT OBEY HIS WORDS, and that brings sure condemnation.
Sinners love to "pretend" that the WHOLLY WORD has love for them, which provokes no CREATORLY repentance, and has quenched the conviction of the SPIRIT of HOLINESS upon so many.
Sinners live in opposition to the ONE WHO could LOVE them. and are actually "ENEMIES" of DIVINE LOVE! Sinners are natural enemies of anything that pertains to LOVE and LIFE, that they are opposed to REAL LOVE, in any sense of the WORD, LOVE!
These "rebels" hear someone tell them, "CREATOR loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life" and they pretend it means the WORD, accepts them, or that has good feelings for them, or that the WHOLLY WORD is pleased with them, and that is so far from the Truth, that ONLY the totally deceived believe such a overwhelming LIE! The "pay as you enter" hirelings say 'Come as you are."
The WORD is PERFECT, and does not accept them as they are - He hates them as they are!
The DIVINE "PLAN" for them is eternal torment in the lake of fire, unless they TURN from their wicked ways, and submit to the WHOLLY WORD!
This "CREATOR-loves-you-unconditionally, false Gospel" should be utterly forsaken for the GRAND NEWS message by the HIS WORDS!
Holiness or HELL!
Consecration or condemnation !
Complete Deliverance or Total Torment!
PSSST: The very first verse, stating the WORDS of CREATION that said . . . "I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME. . ." Proverbs 8: 17 was ALL that was really needed for a TRUE LOVER and REAL believer of the WORDS of CREATION!
And anyone who can SEE and HEAR and LIVE these WORDS via the DIVINE MIND. . . AGAIN "I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME . . ." Proverbs 8:17 was more than enough to convince any NON-demented soul that the LOVE of the WORD is in FACT CONDITIONAL!
But since most were "churched" in the sin-0-gogs of satan, under the council of the UN-CREATORly, we gladly provided a "washing of the WORDS," in more abundant manner!
ORIGINAL WORDS of . . .
JOHN 3: 16 "The ORIGINAL CREATOR so loved HIS Original Creation, that HE sent forth HIS WORD again to RESTORE that creation, and anyone lives as HE lived, without sin, will not condemn themselves, but have everlasting LIFE!" (HIS LIFE not "our" life!)
So the bottom line of this SUBJECT of TRUTH is. . . .
"I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME!" Proverbs 8:17
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